
I won't do what you tell me.
Except buy Killing in the Name Of.
One click to defeat the frightful Cowell. Even Lazy Poets can do that.
Jolly good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuOAY-S6OY
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
Lana Turner has collapsed!
After the runaway success of the first Lazy Person’s Poetry Group, the members dragged themselves off the sofa to try again. Indeed, our motto could read: If at first you succeed in some form or another, give it another whirl at some point. Only in Latin and that.
The meeting was held on Friday 16th October at the apartment of Ms Katherine Davey in sunny Walthamstow, north
Archaic Torso of Apollo by Rainer Maria Rilke and The Excrement Poem by Maxine Cumin (both Mr C)
The Sunlight on the Garden by Louis MacNeice and The Mermaid Tank by Stephen Knight (Mrs S)
Also in attendance were:
Mr James Kidd
Dr Dinah Roe
Dr
Events kicked off optimistically - Ms Davey had pre-arranged food and so everyone was in high spirits as we turned to Rilke…though not for long. A challenge indeed, not least one of translation. Mr Cross kindly brought several versions of the poem (not to mention a suitably hunky headless statue), although the one up for discussion was by Stephen Mitchell. This had also been used in The Bookgroup, where Mr Cross had first heard the poem read. Now as then, much focus lasered onto the final lines: You must change your life. The interpretations varied from the self-help to the creative.
We moved, like a mountain-goat leaping up a sharp incline, nimbly to the MacNeice. Two attitudes diverged in the room: Dr Smyth seemed unhappy with the poem’s finale, feeling it a sell-out; others, including Simon herself, took a more positive stance. This was all done with the utmost refinement, of course, and made for an interesting debate about the poem’s jagged inconsistencies.
The Excrement Poem was scooped up with enthusiasm, read on the whole as a naughty-but-nice interrogation of notions about taste and disgust, what it means to be human and what poetry can achieve when it gets its hands dirty. The Mermaid Tank was similarly unfamiliar to everyone present – it too inspired plentiful, if slightly hasty discussion, not least about what a dugong might be. Luckily Mr Cross had dived into google like an eagle with an eyeful of fish.
It seemed almost impossible to believe that a second meeting had occurred. Speaking for myself, I had been flabbergasted to get as far as one. And yet we left, the verse for poetry (apologies) and ready for a third get-together. See you then.
The inaugural meeting of the Lazy Person’s Poetry Group took place at Rose Dawson’s flat in Hackney on Thursday 10th September 2009. I apologise for the delay in posting this post - ironic given the recent post strike - but it is a Lazy Person’s Poetry Group.
Present at this historic occasion were:
Mr David Cross
Ms Katherine Davey
Ms Rose Dawson
Dr Eliane Glaser
Mrs Alex Goddard
Mr James Kidd
Dr Dinah Roe
Mrs Emma Simon
Dr Adam Smyth
The poems under discussion were as follows:
Dante Gabriel Rossetti’s The Woodspurge
Wallace Steven’s The Idea of Order at Key West (http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15749)
Cut by Sylvia Plath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deuS9B1DfIc)
Cut Grass by Philip Larkin.
The Larkin, in the end, wasn’t discussed thanks to interest in the Rossetti and Stevens above all. Some Quantum Curry-ordering also took its toll. Writing shortly after, Kidd noted:
“Special thanks to Rose, for her hospitality, her way with ordering curry, and her sensitive appreciation of Plath’s prosody (if that is the word I am after). To Adam and Katherine, for choosing such rich poems and having such good things to say about them – I could have close read all night.
Honourable mentions go to Eliane and Disraeli* – or sharp critiques and for boosting our numbers by 1 (or perhaps 0.92 at this stage of the final trimester) – and to Emma whose work and family pressures I know might make a poetry group hard to squeeze in. Sharp criticism as always – your paper is most lucky. Alex is clearly extremely naughty for being tardy, but brought Jeffreyesque art criticism and careful attention. Dinah and David both read beautifully, and made very clever comments on a regular basis.
To be honest, I lost utter track of the fine things that were said - incisive questions asked and difficulties teased out, if never quite resolved. I loved reading The Woodspurge as a twisted nature poem by a city boy that offered some odd form of poker-faced consolation – or did it?”
It was noted that the poems were generally of a depressing cast, with an especial focus on cutting things. Of especial note were interpretations of The Woodspurge as a nature poem written by a non-nature poet; of the blind alley provided by non-existent religious subtexts; about how downright depressing it was; and how surprised everyone seemed for liking it.
Stevens was even more challenging, in no small part because the chicken
Curtailed discussion of Plath followed: of especial interest (though I do say so myself) was the slippery tone used in Cut, which evaded straightforward interpretation. Depressing? Yes and no…What a voice.
A fine time was had by all. A second meeting was mooted. Most to the point, poetry was the winner. Hurrah.
*A final final note. In the weeks following this email, Disraeli was born to Drs Smyth and Glaser, only now he is Ezra. Poetic justice indeed.